Who Is The Greatest Phillie Of All Time?
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ESPN’s Baseball Tonight (BBTN) program is running a poll every day in August giving you a chance to vote on the greatest player of all time from each of the Major League Baseball clubs. Fourteen different teams have been voted on by the fans so far, with results such as Stan Musial as the greatest Cardinal of all time, Pete Rose for the Reds, Frank Thomas from the White Sox, and Philly favorite Joe Carter from the Blue Jays.
The way the poll works is the staff from BBTN pick who they believe are the top 10 players from each franchise and then the public votes on their top choice from those ten. The BBTN staff casts their own vote as well, and the top three from each group are revealed during each airing of BBTN.
The Phillies are scheduled for the August 25 airing and I thought the Hot Stove Philly nation should get its say in ahead of time. You can cast your official vote at ESPN.
The ten players that the BBTN staff has determined are the ten greatest Phillies of all time are:
- Grover Cleveland Alexander
- Dick Allen
- Richie Ashburn
- Jim Bunning
- Steve Carlton
- Big Ed Delahanty
- Del Ennis
- Chuck Klein
- Robin Roberts
- Mike Schmidt
So we’re going to run our own poll to determine who you think is the best Phillie of all time. The poll is going to run until August 25, when ESPN officially ends their own poll. Before you vote, here’s a little background on each player.
Grover Cleveland Alexander
In Alexander’s rookie season with the Phillies he led the league in wins with 28, still a major league record, 31 complete games, 367 innings pitched, and seven shutouts while finishing second in strikeouts and fourth in ERA. It remains as one of the all time best rookie seasons in history. From 1912 to 1920, Alexander would lead the league in ERA five times, wins six times, strikeouts six times, innings seven times, complete games five times and shutouts six times. He set the single season record for shutouts in 1916 with 16. He won the pitching Triple Crown (ERA, wins, Ks) in 1915, 1916, 1917 and 1920. He pitched a record four one hitters and was instrumental in the Phillies first Pennant win in 1915. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1938.
Dick Allen
Allen was never embraced during his time in Philadelphia, in large part because he was an African-American player. But that did not stop him from being one of the best hitters in baseball history. Like Alexander, Allen had a breakout rookie season, leading the league in runs (125), triples (13), extra base hits (80) and total bases (352). He finished in the top five in batting average (.318), slugging average (.557), hits (201), and doubles (38); and garnered Rookie of the Year honors. Allen would make the All Star team from 1965-1967, and led the league in slugging (.632), OPS (1.027) and extra base hits (75) in 1966. He averaged .292 batting, .534 slugging, and a .378 on base percentage over his career. He was one of the premier power hitters of the 1960s and 1970s, a period in baseball that was largely known for its quality of pitching. He is widely considered the greatest player not in the Hall of Fame.
Richie Ashburn
Whitey is certainly one of the most beloved Phillies to ever play the game. Not only was he a incredible talent, but was beloved as the color analyst for the Phillies alongside the Hall of Fame voice of the Phillies, Harry Kalas. Ashburn was one of the famous Whiz Kids (the youngest team ever fielded) alongside fellow poll mates Del Ennis and Robin Roberts in the 1950s. Despite being an outfielder, Ashburn was not a power hitter, but more of a contact player. Over his 15 year career, Whitey accumulated over 2,500 hits while only hitting 29 homeruns. He was a “spray hitter,” having the ability to hit the ball into any part of the ballpark, making him very hard to defend against. He sported a .308 lifetime batting average, led the National League twice in batting average, and routinely led the league in fielding percentage. Ashburn had the most hits (1,875) of any batter during the 1950s. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1995.
Jim Bunning
Bunning is the only Phillies’ pitcher to ever throw a perfect game, and one of only 17 pitchers in history to do so. Bunning was the first pitcher to throw a no-hitter in both leagues, the first time coming while he was playing for the Detroit Tigers in a game against the Red Sox at Fenway Park, the second coming when he shutdown the New York Mets in perfect order on Father’s Day in 1964. There have only been five pitchers in history to throw a no-hitter in both leagues. He was an all star in 1957, 1959, from 1961-1964, and in 1966. On August 2, 1959, he became the fifth American League pitcher, and the 10th pitcher all time, to strike out the side with just nine pitches in a game against the Red Sox. He has 224 career wins, with a career ERA of 3.27, 151 complete games, 40 shutouts, and 2,855 strikeouts. He was voted into the Hall of Fame in 1996 with well over 3,000 first place votes.
Steve Carlton
Lefty is one of the most beloved players in Phillies’ history, in large part due to his involvement in the Phillies’ only World Series title in 1980. The stat that perhaps best defines Carlton is that he won 27 games in 1972 when the Phillies as an organization only won 59 games. Carlton won four Cy-Young awards (the first pitcher to ever do so), is fourth all-time in strikeouts (second amongst left-handers), is the last National League pitcher to win 25 or more games in one season and is the last pitcher from any team to throw more than 300 innings in a season. Carlton won a Gold Glove in 1981 and was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1994.
Ed Delahanty
“Big Ed” was a power hitting outfielder from the 1890s. He batted .306 with six homeruns and 91 RBIs in 1892, and followed that up the next year by batting .368 with 19 homeruns and 146 RBIs. From 1894-1896, Delahanty batted an astounding .407, 4 HR, 131 RBI; .404, 11 HR, 106 RBI; .397, 13 HR, 126 RBI respectively. Delahanty won his first batting title in 1899 with a .410 batting average, adding nine homers and 137 RBIs and becoming the first in Major League history to hit at least .400 three times during their career. On July 13, 1896, he set a number of records, becoming just the second player in history to hit four homeruns in one game, the first to hit four inside the park homeruns, and the first to do so in a losing effort. He is still the only player to hit four home runs in a game and to also hit four doubles in a game. In his 16 seasons with Philadelphia, Cleveland and Washington, Delahanty batted .346, with 101 HRs and 1464 RBIs, 522 doubles, 185 triples and 455 stolen bases. He also led the league in slugging average and runs batted in three times each, and batted over .400 three times. Since Delahanty, Rogers Hornsby has been the only other three time .400-hitter in the National League. His career batting average of .346 ranks fourth all time amongst players who have at least 1,000 at-bats behind Ty Cobb (.366), Hornsby (.359), and Joe Jackson (.356). He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1945.
Del Ennis
During his career, Ennis had more RBIs (1284) than anyone in the majors with the exception of Stan Musial of the Cardinals. In 1950 he led the NL with 126 RBI as the Phillies won their first pennant in 35 years. He held the Phillies career record of 259 home runs from 1956 to 1980, and ranked 10th in NL history with 1824 games in the outfield when his career ended. Ennis was the first Phillies rookie ever to make the All Star game and that year he finished eighth in the MVP voting after batting .313 with 17 home runs and 73 RBI and placing second in the NL in slugging (.485) behind Musial. He would make the All Star team again in 1951 and 1955. He broke the Phillies’ batting record for right handers in 1948 with 30 homeruns and 95 RBIs. His best year came in 1950 when he hit .311 with career highs of 31 home runs and an NL-best 126 RBIs. He held the Phillies’ all-time homerun record from 1956 until 1980 when he was surpassed by Mike Schmidt. In a 14-season career, Ennis compiled a .284 batting average with 288 home runs, 2063 hits, 1284 RBI and 985 runs in 1903 games.
Chuck Klein
Klein was the top all around hitter in Phillies’ history until the arrival of Mike Schmidt. During his career he had four home run championships, two RBI titles, and a batting title. Not only could he hit, but he could run the bases as well. In 1932 he led the league in stolen bases and came in third in triples with 15. Klein, Ty Cobb, and Jimmy Sheckard are the only three players to lead the league in home runs and stolen bases in a year. He was named the NL MVP that same year. Oh, in addition to being a prodigious hitter and a remarkable baserunner, Klein was also a superb fielder, holding the major league record for outfield assists in a season with 44 in 1930. In 1933, Klein won the Triple Crown, batting .368 with 21 homeruns and 120 RBIs. In his 17-year career Klein batted .320, with 398 doubles, 1201 runs batted in, 1168 runs, 2076 hits (870 extra-bases), and 300 home runs. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1980.
Robin Roberts
Another member of the Whiz Kids to make the list, Roberts was truly an old school pitcher, pitching three times in the last five days of the 1950 season, beating the Brooklyn Dodgers in a 10-inning, pennant deciding game. From 1950 to 1955, Roberts won 20 games each season. He led the league in wins from 1952-1955, led the league six times in games started, five times in complete games and innings pitched, and at one point pitched 28 complete games in a row. Roberts never walked more than 77 batters in a season. He won 28 games in 1952, which was the most victories in a season since 1935. He narrowly missed the Triple Crown in 1953, winning 23 games, leading the league in strikeouts, and coming in a narrow second in ERA with a mark of 2.75. One of the most memorable games of Roberts career came on May 13, 1954, when he gave up a lead-off home run and then retired the next 27 batters. In his 19-season career, Roberts compiled a 286-245 record with 2,357 strikeouts, a 3.41 ERA, 305 complete games, 45 shutouts, and 4,688⅔ innings pitched in 676 games. He holds the Major League record for home runs allowed by a pitcher (505) and for most consecutive Opening Day starts for the same team with 12. He is the only pitcher to defeat the Boston Braves, the Milwaukee Braves and the Atlanta Braves, a testament to his endurance and longevity. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1976.
Mike Schmidt
Michael Jack Schmidt is perhaps the most famous Phillie ever and is the unquestioned greatest third baseman of all time. He is a three-time MVP, a 12-time All Star, and a 10-time Gold Glove Award winner. In 1976, Schmidt hit 12 home runs in the Phillies’ first 15 games, including 4 in one game on April 1. No one had ever hit so many homeruns so quickly. This feat was later tied by Alex Rodriguez in 2007. In the Phillies World Series season of 1980, Schmidt led the league in homeruns with 48 and won the NL MVP in a unanimous vote. He would win the MVP the following year as well, and his third in 1986. In 1987, Schmidt hit homerun number 500 against the Pittsburgh Pirates, which would end up being the winning run of the game. The call by broadcaster Harry Kalas is perhaps the most famous in Phillies’ history. Schmidt led the league in home runs eight times, in RBI four times, OPS five times, and walks four times. He finished his career with 548 homeruns and 1,595 RBIs. They are just two of many Phillies’ records that he holds. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1995 and received (at the time) the fourth highest percentage (96.52%) in history.
So that’s it. Now it’s time for you to make your decision and cast your vote for who you think is the Phillies Greatest Player Of All Time.
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As a self proclaimed, baseball historian, I would argue that Grover Cleveland Alexander is hands down the greatest Phillie of all time. Understanding that he pitched during the dead ball era for a good portion of his career, obviouly his numbers are lower than a CY Young award winner today but along with Cy Young and Walter Johnson, Alexander is a forefather of modern power pitching. Just my 2 cents. bmb
I’m in agreement with Brian. Although he won’t garnish the proper votes (be it here or on ESPN), Pete Alexander isn’t just the greatest Phillie of all-time, but one of the greatest pitchers of all-time.
When it comes to modern voting, unless their name is Ruth, Gerhig, or Cobb, deadball era stars won’t get their due. Maybe not just the deadball era, but anything pre-1950.
When the Phillies announced their “All-Century Team” in 1983, I was a little surprised at some of the names forgotten. How a starting outfield could have Gary Maddox & Del Ennis, but not Chuck Klein and Ed Delahanty. Manny Trillo was a better second baseman than Nap Lajoie? It was a joke.
Maybe it’s just fans aren’t into the history of baseball, maybe it’s just who they grew up with, but stars from the late 1800’s until 1950 easily get overlooked.
My top three:
Alexander
Carlton
Delahanty